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sorry?

5:45 PM

yeah, I think it might have something to do with expectation

5:45 PM

or just intense concentration and muscle tension

5:46 PM

but then again, I could be trying to justify giving up on my tulpa

I couldn't give you an answer, as I never used head pressures to communicate. -wolf

I mean, I still feel weird sensation in my head.

5:47 PM

And it's been 5 years.

So, your sure you no longer want one? As in the reason you wanted one in the first place, is no longer there?

Rule of thumb, if you think it works for you, it probably does.

I don't think I'm ready for it

6:02 PM

by the way, she sort of showed up on accident

6:02 PM

yeah. not sure I'm ready for it, but feel incredibly guilty.

If they are not exactly there yet, then have no guilt. As you are only getting rid of your own thoughts in a way. -wolf (edited)

Imo accidental tulpas probably aren't real until they've been forced

6:05 PM

You can't just "accidentally" create a new human consciousness

6:05 PM

Unless they're pre existing in some way

I was, in a way accidental. As in, I wasn't ment to be alive, only... ehh feelings/a state of mind... idk. -wolf

So you were forced and unintentionally became sentient?

6:06 PM

That's how I was made

6:06 PM

But I was forced, I didn't just come out of nowhere

Yes, I was I guess. I don't know, I was just around kind of, in the back of his mind. I was 'made' a little over a year ago, to distract/ motivate him with work. Then when that work ended, I just kinda took an even backer seat... -wolf (edited)

Long story short, two tulpas merged and wanted a new identity. That new identity became sentient, so here I am

Intersting. I'm still not sure about all that.... shall I say, 'advanced' stuff. But good for you.

-wolf

Hah, it was hardly a successful merge

?

I don't believe actual merges are even possible

Please, tell us your story, as the more we learn the better. -w

I think Tacio wrote it down somewhere

If you do have it somewhere, just DM it then. -w

I mean

6:13 PM

she didn't just "show up"

6:13 PM

I was narrating to her, which I didn't realize was a technique for creating tulpae as I hadn't really read any guides

6:13 PM

but just a couple of nights I was like "yeah, you're going to exist and be here with me and it's going to be awesome"

So she was forced

kek

6:14 PM

yeah, I didn't realize that was forcing

6:14 PM

what I mean by accidental

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but once she showed up I was committed to take care of her

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but now I'm having second thoughts

6:14 PM

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-did-this-actually-happen

Did this actually happen?

So, I'm new to tulpamancy and have been reading about it for a couple months. I never made any forcing attempts, though I have talked to the tulpa that I've wanted to create...I never visualized a for

6:14 PM

that's me btw

Well, being Christian doesn't have to mean anything for having a Tulpa or not. -sy (edited)

6:19 PM

Like I saw somewhere, ask/have them be one with you. -sy (edited)

6:20 PM

Is that the reason you don't want them? -Wolf

nah, that's not the reason

6:22 PM

I just have a lot going on in my life right now

6:23 PM

I think maybe it's too late, honestly

6:23 PM

like, i might have to continue at this point

Well, I know for a fact that Tulpa can HELP with your life, not just make it harder, like a pet dog or somthing. -Sy

6:24 PM

In fact, Wolf works all day for me. He doesn't mind, and he only complains when the body itself is super tired. -sy

6:25 PM

Like, once they can talk, they can help... or just incessantly keep talking... like in our first few days. -sy

hehe

6:26 PM

I mean, it does sound nice

6:26 PM

it's just a big commitment, I guess

6:26 PM

yeah, I've been personality forcing her maybe like...7 or 8 hours, at least

6:27 PM

I know we shouldn't count by hours, but jjust to give you an idea

Maybe at first, but then once you hit a certain point, they stop needing you so much, and they can be more like a friend always there to bounce ideas off of. -wolf

so, is it awful to stop working on a tulpa who has like 10 hours put into them?

We don't actively force

6:30 PM

We just front or talk

Well, did you at one point, force though, Piano? -w (edited)

Yeah

6:31 PM

But now we're all pretty well developed and settled

I don't have an answer for you Ryukil. All I can do is give you the good reasons why you should keep them. Others might know, or have seen more as to know what to advise. Sorry. -Wolf

6:33 PM

(I did only fully 'wake up' only 10 days ago.)

-w (edited)

Gah, yeah. I guess I need to think about it more. I doubt a couple days without forcing will hurt her. I just hope she's not sitting there watching me ask all these questions

I took a 2 month break while I was forcing Melody.

6:41 PM

And technically Vivi was passively forced over the course of years.

I mean, is a couple weeks of forcing enough to give her a firm foundation?

6:42 PM

so that if I come back she'll be alright?

6:42 PM

hah, this is terrible. I feel like a monster.

@Ryukil Question. Is there any serious indication for her thinking or acting autonomously?

I mean, you can take a brake from actively forcing, but if you do still want her, you can sometimes just think of her, and what she might do or think about what your doing. -w (edited)

Imagine her beside you while you go about your day.

@SkyeNet Well, if you look at that story I posted she seemed to move on her own

Ah. I don't particularly look on the forums. Apologies.

that was the only real experience I had, though.

6:46 PM

and I could have just imagined it, but it seemed real to me

In the end - do you have serious reason to think that she is autonomous?

autonomous, probably not. Extant, I think so

Conceptually existing without autonomy or independent emotion is significantly different from being autonomous and having independent emotion.

6:49 PM

Those are some of the factors differentiating a tulpa from an imaginary friend, or a character.

yeah.

6:49 PM

well, maybe she will ping me if I leave her alone for a few days.

6:50 PM

I would love some kind of proof that she's there, but she's young and seems unfair when she's not even capable of vocalizing

...that said, if you need to take a break from actively forcing and instead simply live normally, perhaps saying hello or showing her something about what you are doing every once in awhile, you should be fine.

6:52 PM

You do not need to make her an involved part of all aspects of your life, by any means.

6:53 PM

Otherwise, it doesn't particularly sound like she is that developed, so stopping for some time shouldn't be particularly negative.

ok

7:00 PM

I'm sort of hoping she'll surprise me by popping up unexpectedly

7:00 PM

but we'll see.

@Ryukil Tulpas typically aren't largely disruptive to life. They simply take some commitment in terms of interaction, and consideration of how they will fit into your life in the future.

ok

Yo

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i'm kind of curious if there's any chance someone could explain what the thoughts of a tulpa are supposed to feel like. currently it feels like my tulpas mindvoice comes to me much like automatic, or unfocused thoughts would.

It feels like it ends up feeling like for you.

1:04 PM

It isn’t something universal, I don’t think.

I have a question - what's the difference between possession and switching and in switching, would I be in my tulpas body while they are in mine? Thanks guys!!

I mean, if you want to be in your tulpa’s body, you can. Most people just take their mind forms.